Value Cooling: Two Towers for under $30
by Wesley Fink on January 23, 2007 3:50 AM EST- Posted in
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Cooling Results
Both the Thermalright MST-9775 and the Scythe Katana outperform the retail Intel X6800 HSF at idle. Their performance is very similar, but not up to the cooling performance of the Tuniq Tower 120.
Where the very good Intel stock cooler keeps the X6800 at 41C at idle, the Thermalright MST-9775 manages 39C, which is a slight improvement. The Scythe Katana does even better in reducing idle processor temperature to 32C. However, neither of these $25 coolers can match the 27C we measured with the more expensive Tuniq Tower 120.
As the processor is pushed to its highest stable overclock using the retail HSF, the delta increases. At 3.73GHz the retail HSF is running at 56C, compared to 48C with the Thermalright and 45C with the Katana. The Katana and Thermalright perform similarly, which should not be too surprising considering both use a 92mm fan and both use a similar heatpipe/fin assembly - even though they really do look very different. The difference in performance between the Katana and MST-9775 is most likely due to the auto speed reduction of the MST-9775 as a result of the 4-pin fan connector. We performed several measurements of the two coolers at similar fan speeds and found results were very close, with a slight edge to the Scythe Katana.
The Scythe Katana reaches a slightly higher overclock of 3.81GHz compared to the highest 3.78GHz with the MST-9775. At the highest overclock each cooler reached the Katana was about 3C cooler at idle.
It is easy to measure the effectiveness of a cooling solution at idle - when the computer is doing nothing except running the temperature measurement program. It is more difficult, however, to effectively simulate a computer being stressed by all of the conditions it might be exposed to in different operating environments. For most home users CPU power is most taxed with contemporary gaming. Therefore our stress test simulates running a demanding contemporary game.
The Far Cry River demo is looped for 30 minutes and the CPU temperature is captured at 4 second intervals with the NVIDIA monitor "logging" option. The highest temperature during the stress test is then reported. We did try other variations in "stressing" the CPU, but multitasking variations did not produce higher temperatures than looping the Far Cry River demo. For that reason, we settled on the simple stress test of looping a demanding Far Cry demo for 30 minutes.
Cooling efficiency of the MST-9775 and Katana were compared to the retail HSF and the Tuniq Tower 120 measured under these stress conditions. It is very interesting that under stress conditions the performance curves of the MST-9775 and Katana get closer as speed increases. This confirms our suspicion that the biggest performance differences between these two coolers are likely the results of the Thermalright's variable fan speed.
Both the MST-9775 and the Katana perform solidly between the retail Intel cooler and the Tuniq Tower when stressed and temperatures are measured at increasing overclocks. This is another way of saying the Thermalright MST-9775 and Scythe Katana both outperform the stock Intel HSF, but they are not the equal of the more expensive Tuniq. You can see that as processor speed increases the delta between these coolers and the Intel gets smaller - indicating they are not nearly as robust a cooling solution as the Tuniq. This should not be a surprise to anyone, since the Tuniq Tower 120 costs twice as much as the MST-9775 or Katana.
The performance of both of these under $30 coolers is very good. Either outperforms the Intel retail cooler, and both provide good value. They do not match the best cooling performance we have tested, but they do well considering what they cost.
As for the overclocking abilities of the CPU, they will vary at the top. This particular CPU does higher FSB speeds than any X6800 we have tested, but the 3.9GHz top speed with the Tuniq is pretty average among the X6800 processors we have tested. A few of the other processors tested with the best air coolers reach just over 4 GHz, but the range has been 3.8 to 4.0GHz. Stock cooling generally tops out 200 to 400Mhz lower, depending on the CPU, on the processors tested in our lab.
Both the Thermalright MST-9775 and the Scythe Katana outperform the retail Intel X6800 HSF at idle. Their performance is very similar, but not up to the cooling performance of the Tuniq Tower 120.
Where the very good Intel stock cooler keeps the X6800 at 41C at idle, the Thermalright MST-9775 manages 39C, which is a slight improvement. The Scythe Katana does even better in reducing idle processor temperature to 32C. However, neither of these $25 coolers can match the 27C we measured with the more expensive Tuniq Tower 120.
As the processor is pushed to its highest stable overclock using the retail HSF, the delta increases. At 3.73GHz the retail HSF is running at 56C, compared to 48C with the Thermalright and 45C with the Katana. The Katana and Thermalright perform similarly, which should not be too surprising considering both use a 92mm fan and both use a similar heatpipe/fin assembly - even though they really do look very different. The difference in performance between the Katana and MST-9775 is most likely due to the auto speed reduction of the MST-9775 as a result of the 4-pin fan connector. We performed several measurements of the two coolers at similar fan speeds and found results were very close, with a slight edge to the Scythe Katana.
The Scythe Katana reaches a slightly higher overclock of 3.81GHz compared to the highest 3.78GHz with the MST-9775. At the highest overclock each cooler reached the Katana was about 3C cooler at idle.
It is easy to measure the effectiveness of a cooling solution at idle - when the computer is doing nothing except running the temperature measurement program. It is more difficult, however, to effectively simulate a computer being stressed by all of the conditions it might be exposed to in different operating environments. For most home users CPU power is most taxed with contemporary gaming. Therefore our stress test simulates running a demanding contemporary game.
The Far Cry River demo is looped for 30 minutes and the CPU temperature is captured at 4 second intervals with the NVIDIA monitor "logging" option. The highest temperature during the stress test is then reported. We did try other variations in "stressing" the CPU, but multitasking variations did not produce higher temperatures than looping the Far Cry River demo. For that reason, we settled on the simple stress test of looping a demanding Far Cry demo for 30 minutes.
Cooling efficiency of the MST-9775 and Katana were compared to the retail HSF and the Tuniq Tower 120 measured under these stress conditions. It is very interesting that under stress conditions the performance curves of the MST-9775 and Katana get closer as speed increases. This confirms our suspicion that the biggest performance differences between these two coolers are likely the results of the Thermalright's variable fan speed.
Both the MST-9775 and the Katana perform solidly between the retail Intel cooler and the Tuniq Tower when stressed and temperatures are measured at increasing overclocks. This is another way of saying the Thermalright MST-9775 and Scythe Katana both outperform the stock Intel HSF, but they are not the equal of the more expensive Tuniq. You can see that as processor speed increases the delta between these coolers and the Intel gets smaller - indicating they are not nearly as robust a cooling solution as the Tuniq. This should not be a surprise to anyone, since the Tuniq Tower 120 costs twice as much as the MST-9775 or Katana.
The performance of both of these under $30 coolers is very good. Either outperforms the Intel retail cooler, and both provide good value. They do not match the best cooling performance we have tested, but they do well considering what they cost.
As for the overclocking abilities of the CPU, they will vary at the top. This particular CPU does higher FSB speeds than any X6800 we have tested, but the 3.9GHz top speed with the Tuniq is pretty average among the X6800 processors we have tested. A few of the other processors tested with the best air coolers reach just over 4 GHz, but the range has been 3.8 to 4.0GHz. Stock cooling generally tops out 200 to 400Mhz lower, depending on the CPU, on the processors tested in our lab.
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Vidmar - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - link
Thanks for the info. Now I wonder if someone is making a CPU cooler where the heatpipes are setup to be in a somewhat vertical orientation when the case is vertical?If you look at some GPU and chipset heatpipe coolers they obviously had that in mind with their design. Hot gas will flow up, gravity will pull the cool liquid down.
I would be willing to bet (based upon the heatpipe design) that Thermalright MST-9775 would have done better in a horizontal orientation than when in a vertical orientation. Can you re-test the Thermalright MST-9775 in a vertical orientation and see if it made any difference?
Thanks!
Vidmar - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - link
That should have been "Can you re-test the Thermalright MST-9775 in a horizontal orientation and see if it made any difference?"anandtech02148 - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - link
just curious, with a 520wtt psu, does psu fan spin constantly?the hardwares you have seems to indicate this will utilized 80% of the psu, what's the total load power for this?
will this run stable if you put a 8800gtx instead of 7900gtx?
now i can visit Anandtech too for cooler reviews instead of Frostytech.com, great start with the under $30 coolers
Wesley Fink - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - link
The OCZ 520w PS handles a pair of overclocked 7900GTX in SLI mode just fine. We have destoyed power supplies with higher wattage ratings with this same configuration. It is also quiet for a PS, which is why it is also used in the hard drive test bed. We had no problem with a single 8800GTX in this test rig, but we have not yet tried 8800GTX SLI in this rig.ninethirty - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - link
Wondering -- for those of us with space-challenged cases, could you mention the height of the coolers in question? For people who can't fit a Tuniq Tower, the limitation is likely to be height.If it's already mentioned somewhere, then I apologize for missing it.
Wesley Fink - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - link
The Katana is 130mm tall (5.11") and the standard Thermalright MST-9775 is 71mm (2.8"). Thermalright also makes a shorter OEM version of the MST-9775 called the MST-9775 LE that is said to fit any case configuration available.The Tuniq Tower 120 in contrast is 155mm tall and mid-tower cases are said to be 190mm on average in the heatsink height dimension.
yyrkoon - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - link
I second that motion. I have an Lian Li PC-G50, and the PSU sits right above the CPU, only aftermarket cooler I can think of that may fit, would be the Ole Gigabyte one (which if memory serves, it was a pretty good cooler).banshee164 - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - link
No offense guys, but aren't you just a little behind with the heatsinks here? The Katana has been out for a year & a half now, and the MST-9775 has been around since the summer...Wesley Fink - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - link
While the Katana has been out for a year and a half, most earlier reviews tested it on the hot Pressler or a Socket 939 AMD. Performance on the Core 2 Duo is quite different, and C2D has only been available about 6 months.We are testing some of the older and more popular coolers that are still available because what was true of the Katana on Pressler or AMD is certainly NOT the case on Core 2 Duo.
JarredWalton - Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - link
If you've been around AnandTech for a while, you know we haven't done cooling reviews in quite some time. The idea is to establish a baseline of testing results for some of the popular coolers, even if they've been out a while and over time we will be adding more cooler results. Basically, we have to start somewhere and move forward. Luckily, unlike motherboards, GPUs, and some other components, HSFs tend to have a pretty long shelf-life (at least for the effective solutions).