I've got no agenda of my own, I'm only here to do the best job I can possibly do in the best interest of the readers. That being said, I'm wondering if a good way of tackling the price issue is to do a month with an iMac G5?
That could provide an interesting way to incorporate many of the things I didn't talk about in the first Mac article that I would have liked to have touched on. Just a thought.
That could provide an interesting way to incorporate many of the things I didn't talk about in the first Mac article that I would have liked to have touched on. Just a thought.
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Coombs - Friday, October 15, 2004 - link
with regard to posts #57 & 58.Check this out at http://www.crazyapplerumors.com/archives/000314.ht...
An advantage of being a Mac aficionado is being able to enjoy visiting such irreverent sites and having a chuckle.
Peace
brichpmr - Friday, October 15, 2004 - link
That 'solid core' of Mac rejectors would fit the definition of 'sheep;' unless fanboys define their computing environment.SD - Friday, October 15, 2004 - link
#57, if you ask me, the best way to accomplish that would be to have a few people pretend to be obnoxious hardcore fanboys. This would make all the reasonable people using/advocating Macs look bad and convince people that the only reason to use a Mac is to "look different." That, in turn, would produce a solid core of users that would refuse to buy a Mac regardless of.. wait...Mac Gamer - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link
#22: Your argument that "if everyone went Mac, there would be lots of OS X malware" is true but misses a fundamental point: if YOU bought a mac right now, the marginal probability of OS X malware suddenly appearing would be almost zero. So what you actually want to do is to buy a Mac and then try to convince people not to buy one.Oh wait, good plan. Nobody buy Macs ok?
sid - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link
dear all,i really don't know what macs have in them that most of time any thing said about them turns into a flame. why don't we see the fact that macs really do some things well , really well and thats reason they continue to sell though to a smaller number of users. in my view one major reason macs selling less is also their relative lack of availability in fast growing developing markets like india(incidentally i am an indian and i would love to own a mac though i am a amd based pc user currently).
i agree with 53 that anand should ask some non geeky person to review the imac / emac though i would to have anand comment about it as he is one of the best.
love tc
sid
Macs are better - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link
I'm sorry but Macs are better just face it. Apple took from Xerox and pioneered something that Microsoft continues to get wrong. Let's face the facts:Macs look better
Macs smell better
Macs have a nice boot note, PCs have a POST beep
Macs have Apples on them
Macs have spunk
Steve Jobs is my hero
Finding Nemo is my favorite movie
You see, it is pretty revelatory I know but just take a deep breath and soak it in. Macs are just better. As the guys who use Macs to save the world from PC viruses (see above).
Hooray!
Well said - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link
Well said #53. I like you. Maybe we can have a beer one day.Mitch - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link
A very interesting thread. I'm a Mac consultant - first time on anandtech. I think the low virus threat is really quite critical to the average user. My Windows counterparts spend half their time removing viruses/spyware/adware from their machines. I haven't even seen a Mac virus on a client computer in 5+ years. Now the Windows consultants may like that since they make money doing the removals. But the total net savings to the client is really quite staggering, both in money and productivity.I really do think Windows is fine for those that like it better. I have a G5 and a decent dell at my desk. I turn on the Dell about once a month, while my G5 hasn't been off in the year I've had it (other than power failures etc). But that's me. I think Anand's review was really quite good. I'm not sure if he'd be a good person to do an iMac review. He's obviously a high-end tech geek. The iMac is meant for a different sort of person. Maybe if he bought it and asked a non-geeky or semi-geeky neighbor to use it a month. It's kind of like asking a NASCAR driver to review a Lincoln Town Car.
wbwither - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link
#35 -- what's your point? Macs wouldn't hold thier value so well if people weren't willing to pay for them. Sellers aren't artificially keeping their prices high because "they've already spent too much of their paychecks" on their Macs. If they were overpricing their used Macs, people simply wouldn't buy them. And yet, people buy them.And the more I've thought about it, the more I've realized that this is really just very smart price-management on the part of Apple. They're using their monopoly to keep their customers from getting pissed off that they paid X dollars a year ago for something that's now only worth Y dollars. Intel and AMD expose the yield issue in their pricing -- in some ways, it makes sense to pay twice as much for 200MHz more, because the 200MMHz faster chip is so much more rare when it comes to processor yields.
Apple -- a computer company, not a processor company -- hides this yield problem by matching price points, yield be damned. When they first introduced the G4, they announced a 500MHz chip that never shipped. They had orders for it -- lots of orders -- but it was never shipped. I've heard that 2.5GHz G5s are pretty hard to come by currently. Apple could easily get away with selling them at $5,000 apiece, because there's that much demand for them. But then the guys who paid $5000 for them will gradually grow dissatisfied when the price is $2500 after 6 months, and the new fastest machine is $5000. By keeping their new Mac pricing consistent, Apple has done a good job of manipulating the market for used Macs, to keep Macs from depreciating as rapidly as PCs.
To some folks, this may seem evil, because it's certainly manipulative and monopolistic behavior. I think it's just smart business on Apple's part, to keep from alienating their customers with each new release.
P.S. I do have a Mac, a G4/400 running Jaguar, and several PCs running XP Pro and Linux.
OsamaBinApple - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link
Osama Bin Laden prefers the Macintosh platform. In fact I heard he's going to change his Anti-American sentiment to iJihad.